Comments on: David Koci is about to be run out of Denver

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By: Kevin Nash

Kevin Nash — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:30:34 +0000

I wasn’t a Scott Parker fan either, that is why the downgrade is sad.
I think the hit was dirty, but not anything to be castrated over. You are absolutely correct that he should be skating hard on every shift no matter what the score is. My problem with it is when I take that hit, and all of the other hooking, poking, punching, etc. that Koci does in his 3 minutes per game has added up to over 60 pims. He is not helping the team by taking runs at other players. If had an ounce of hockey talent in him, then all of this would not matter to me. Goonery just for the sake of being a goon is not a brand of hockey that I find enjoyable, and that is the category I throw that hit into.

By: VancouverIslesFan

VancouverIslesFan — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:37:29 +0000

charging/boarding with intent to injure. Sorry, but watching that video it’s quite clear he came in high as well. If Green hadn’t turned he would have taken a shot to the head, as it was, he took a shot to the head from behind.

There’s absolutely no way to justify that hit, he wound up and came full speed with the intent to injure Green. I’m not a Caps fan and I like what the Avs are doing this year, I’m just calling it as I see it. Completely illegal and deliberate intent to hurt him in my opinion

That’s a clear cut dirty play.

By: J Scott Moore

J Scott Moore — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:07:28 +0000

Matt & Kevin, I agree that the Avs lacked fire and intensity. How is that Koci’s fault? He’s not the coach or the other players. When he got his ice time he showed some fire, and that is more than you can say about the rest of the guys. No? So don’t you think you should be riding the other guys as hard as you are Koci?
And I don’t think that you should turn down the intensity just because the game is assumed to be over. It isn’t. There’s time on the clock, play hard. That’s what they get paid to do.
You can’t have it both ways with a guy like Koci: you can’t complain about how he does nothing in his 2-3 minutes of ice time and then complain when he does do something.
As for his fighting ability, I agree that he isn’t a very good fighter. But Scott Parker wasn’t much of a hockey player either. Seriously, he was a very poor skater but he was well liked in Denver so you and a lot of other people are willing to give him a pass. That isn’t fair.
Matt, I don’t think I took your post out of context. It is a good post and I agree with you about fighting. I’m glad to find another supporter of fighting, I think it’s a great part of the game. And the Caps lack a pure fighter and that was possibly a factor in all of this. But you place too much blame on Koci. Tucker HAS been a poor signing for the Avs on a lot of levels.

By: Jeremy Scriven

Jeremy Scriven — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:52:36 +0000

I would use your same logic on the Ovechkin’s hit on Kaleta that received the same penalty Koci got. Yet everybody calls that hit dirty and paints OV as a dirty player. Look at a freeze fram just before he hits Kaleta and you’ll Kaleta was not facing the boards until the very last second. I think Koci deserved the 5 minute major for boarding and perhaps the game misconduct. I also was okay with OV getting the same penalty. But I wouldn’t call either of them “dirty”.

By: Kevin Nash

Kevin Nash — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:56:25 +0000

I have to agree with Matt on this one. This is exactly what I said after the hit. Where was the fire and intensity before the game was out of hand? That is why the hit is dirty. Koci knew full well what he was doing when he skated at top speed toward a player along the boards with the game out of reach in the 2nd period. There is no reason for him to even go for that hit at that point in the game.
He has contributed absolutely nothing to the team this season, and he is not even good at fighting. Being a downgrade from Scott Parker is a pretty bad thing…

By: Matt Jordan

Matt Jordan — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:53:31 +0000

First off, thanks for taking my rant WAY of out context. Although, you did get something right. I was on the bandwagon of “why the hell did we sign this guy?”

On the Boudreau comments, every coach in the NHL is a hypocrite. Every coach in the NHL has that guy they keep at the bench to go out and rough up (some coaches, injure other players) when the game is out of hand. For the Avs, Koci is that guy.
I do agree with Boudreau, players like that are just a waste of a roster space. On to the real blame, it goes to Darcy Tucker. If Tucker (who has been the subject of my ridicule since about midway of last season), would have done his job of being the team’s enforcer, then there wouldn’t have been a “need” to sign Koci.

Maybe it was a good, hard hit. Maybe it was dirty. Who know’s? The main thing is, for years, I have been preaching about the NHL cracking down on boarding. I think it’s one of the lowest, cheapest penalties you can actually get in hockey.

Yet, people are still ignoring a question I have been posing all day, why show that much intensity when you are already down 5-0? Where was it when the Avs were down 1-0 or 2-0. Yes, pointing out someone going on a rant, and trying to make them look like an idiot is fun, but the point is, if the Avs had that level of intensity in the first period, the game would have had a MUCH different outcome.