ISLES BLOGOSPHERE WEIGHS IN ON DRAFT: Plus My Prediction, The Real Russian Factor, and More!
BDGallof | Jun 18, 2010 | Comments 7
The Isles blogosphere comprises of a solid and unique bunch. To me, there is no better resource to go to for scenarios of what the Isles might do with this coming draft. The Isles hold 10 picks, including 2 2nd rounders, and 2 3rd rounders besides the overall #5 pick.
That, my friends, is a lot to work with.
Without further adieu, let’s get their take before I go into my own prediction plus a dark horse scenario.
Michael Schuerlein, charter member of the NY Islanders Blog Box
Islesblogger.com and Isles correspondent for Bleacher Report
The last time Garth Snow and Ryan Jankowski had the number five pick in hand on draft day, they traded down from five, to seven to nine – gaining a handful of extra picks and eventually landing Josh Bailey.
Does that mean I feel the Islanders will play the repeater and do the same this time around? No, and here’s why: two years ago there wasn’t the amount of talent in the top five, or even top then as there is this year.
The Islanders should have a short list of prospects that interest them – three in the top ten and some that are off the chart. For the sake of time and space here I will limit the three to the most obvious (and my personal picks).
The Islanders need to fill glaring holes in their current and future rosters – namely on defense. My number one choice is Erik Gudbranson with a close second by Cam Fowler. Gudbranson has the size and Fowler size plus play making ability. The other player is the one most talked about aside from Seguin and Hall – I am talking about Brett Connolly. Connolly is another power forward close to the mold of Kyle Okposo, he has the tools to be a force on the Islanders growing list of homegrown talent up front.
However, should any of the players on the top of their chart be snatched up before the Islanders are called to the podium next Friday, I can see them moving down a position or two if they feel they can grab someone later in the round.
One thing is certain, the Islanders will have a pick that will be a compliment to the team they are building on Long Island.
Nick Giglia, Lighthouse Project expert and blogger
LetThereBeLighthouse blog, and HockeyIndependent.com
The Islanders are one of the major wild cards in this year’s draft, and a lot of it will depend on what Florida does with pick 3. We know Columbus will take one of the 2 big d-men at 4, and I have this feeling Fowler fits right in with their team concept. If Florida either trades the pick or takes Gormley/Connolly at 3, it will blow the draft board wide open and lead to much more maneuvering. I say that if Gudbranson is on the board at 5, the Isles take him and Garth Snow offers a prayer of thanksgiving to the Hockey Gods. If he isn’t, things get more interesting. Fowler is in demand, but he’s very similar to Calvin de Haan, and with so much talent at the back end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd, the Isles will probably try to stockpile picks. In the 8-15 range, the forward corps is very center heavy, so I would see them trying to drop back to 6 or 7 to select a winger. Nino Niederreiter would be my preference in that situation, but Mikael Granlund, while small, is supposed to have buckets of skill. Then, the Isles use the extra pick(s) from the trade-down to either jump back into the 1st for a guy like Jarred Tinordi or Charlie Coyle, or they wait to see what falls to them in the 2nd.
That’s what I think: I think Gudbranson is a top target for them, and if he’s off the board at 5 they try to drop back for Granlund or Niederreiter. I think Florida holds the key to what the Islanders end up doing, and given the depth and fluid rankings the one thing I rule out is an Isles trade-up.
Dee Karl, charter member of the NY Islanders Blog Box
Hockeybuzz.com Isles blogger and the NY Islanders 7th woman
Even though this week Garth Snow seemed to be assuring the hockey community that the Islanders would maintain their #5 pick, when it comes to the Isles, I always expect the unexpected. If they have zeroed in on a draft candidate they feel has been ranked lower than they think he should be (Nino at 12?); be assured Garth will make another shrewd move.
So this June, I am prepared.
Iwill not be surprised if I hear the announcement “The New York Islanders have made a trade…” leaving Snow & company to ascend the podium at 7th, 8th or 9th. (That would be a deal with Carolina, Atlanta or Minnesota.) IT COULD HAPPEN. All I am hoping for with the 2010 first pick is a gift – something to take the place of what I really wanted LAST year. I was in the minority of Isles fans that would have passed on Canada’s chosen son, John Tavares, in favor of Victor Hedman (Who came away from his first season with 4 goals, 20 pts and was a -3. Ouch). However, even Denis Potvin said that 6’6” defensemen don’t grow on trees. Well, there’s a new crop just in with five D in the top 10 and I’m personally hoping the Isles can snag Erik Gudbranson, the 6’4” Ontario native who seems to know what it takes to make it in the NHL. Well, at least that’s what his coach Doug Gilmore thinks.
Aren’t you glad I’m not making the decision? Me too.
Dominik, Isles blogger at SBNation
LighthouseHockey.com
Not that I’m expecting Garth Snow to clue us in, but looking at other teams’ needs and where the Islanders sit at #5, I’m starting to think Erik Gudbranson would be their guy, if he’s there. They talk about the need for size, so Brett Connolly is a temptation. But they’ve spent the last three top picks on forwards and Gudbranson would fill a size and mean-streak need on defense. Plus, it sounds like he’s one of those solid-to-the-core character guys, which they seem to be building around.
That said, whoever they really like could be a surprise. Maybe they love Connolly (if he’s still there), maybe there’s something about Gormley (likewise) or maybe someone else (Nino? A Russian?). I figure Snow to stand pat at #5 — there isn’t the dire need to restock the cupboard with numbers like there was in 2008 — but would anyone be surprised if he traded down again to get someone they’ve fallen in love with? Likewise, with multiple 2nd and 3rd-round picks, could he package a bunch to move his second pick up to the late 1st round?
We’re doing a mock draft at SB Nation, so we just did a more expansive rationale for selecting Gudbranson at Lighthouse Hockey.
Daniel Bressler
Member of the infamous The 2 Man Advantage
The Islanders need a big defenseman. Its as simple as that. The last few years, whether in the draft or through free-agency, they have stock piled nimble d-men or skilled centers. Its time to add some bulk to the skill. Yes Travis Harmonic is in the system, and thats the only big kid I think of. The Islanders are still at least two years away from being a threat in the play-offs. So regardless, whoever of Gromley, Fowler, or Grudbranson is available at number five is who the Islanders should take. That kid will then have time to develop either in junior, the A, or the NHL and when the Islanders are ready to make an impact, so will he.
Tony Stabile
NY Islanders blogger at HockeyIndependent.com
With no glaring need in their prospect pool the Islanders have the opportunity to take the best available player at number 5. In all likelihood either Brett Connolly, Erik Gudbranson or Cam Fowler will be available when #5 comes around….here’s how I think it’ll happen.
At #3 Florida takes Brett Connolly. New GM Dale Tallon can’t pass up the extremely talented Connolly. As the architect of the Stanley Cup champion Blackhawks, he built that team on the backs of #3 overall pick Jonathan Toews and 1st overall selection Patrick Kane. Tallon loves big scoring forwards and Connolly is just that. They have a need for a top defenseman, but after choosing Dmitri Kukilov last June, Connolly makes the most sense here.
At #4 Columbus takes Erik Gudbranson. Fowler would be the home run choice for GM Scott Howson, but I think the safe choice for the Jackets is Gudbranson. Projected to be a Pronger like defenseman, Gudbranson would be an immediate rock on the Blule Jackets blueline and a solid building piece to go along with Rick Nash, Nikita Filatov and Steve Mason.
At #5 The New York Islanders will select Cam Fowler. Fowler is a flashy skater, outstanding passer and his game has so often been compared to Brian Leetch. As with Hall, Seguin and Gudbranson, Fowler is most likely ready for the NHL and sending him back to Windsor for another season would be pointless. Selecting Fowler would give the Islanders a top 4 of Streit, Calvin deHaan, Travis Hamonic and Fowler on opening night 2011…add in Kyle Okposo, Josh Bailey, John Tavares and Kirill Petrov and the Islanders will have a outstanding young core for years to come.
Now I in no way have inside information or will pretend that I do, but my hunch says this is how the top 5 will play out….and I’m sticking to it.
I also feel that whomever the Islanders choose at 5 will impact who they choose at 35. If Connolly drops to 5 and the Islanders take him there, I think they will be looking at some defenseman in round 2, but I strongly believe that the Isles will take a defenseman with that first pick. In the second round I would love to see Garth Snow swing for the fences with the 35th pick and choose either Kirill Kabanov or John McFarland if either is available. The talent is undeniable for either player and really all that’s needed is a little maturity (actually in Kabanov’s case it’s a lot of maturity). Either way, if either player grows up and shows that maturity, it could be a steal for the Islanders.
Tom Liodice, charter member of the NY Islanders Blog Box
The Tiger Track blogger, and NY Islanders correspondent
Remember the last time the Islanders had the fifth overall selection? Well, that eventually turned into the seventh pick, and then the ninth pick. Ottawa fans at that draft, and Isles fans back home were none too happy with the constant “downgrading.” However rest assured this year in Los Angeles, I have no doubt that the Isles will be keeping this fifth pick all to themselves. So what exactly do they need? One word…SIZE. It’s been a problem for the past few years that really hasn’t been addressed on the back line (I’m looking at you, Brendan Witt). But Erik Gudbranson can bring that size for the long term. At 6-foot-4, 195 lbs. (and has time to fill out more!), the young defenseman can fill a void in the Islanders system that has been lacking for quite some time. But of course, for this to happen, Gudbranson will have to escape the clutches of Florida and Columbus in order to wear the orange and royal blue. Regardless, the card will need to fall right for the Islanders in order for the big boy to land.
BACK TO BD
And now my prediction:
I wasn’t sold on Erik Gudbranson until I met him at game 4 of the Cup Finals in Philly. There is far more at work just besides his Pronger-compared play and size. He is highly intelligent, calm, cool and collected.
If there was a man born to play on Long Island in uneven times and to rebuild with, it is this man.
He exudes leadership and is the type of guy a team could rally around.
The Isles have missed on several high end defenders due to their placement. Bogosian, Doughty, Pietrangelo all were those who they regarded highly. Hedman also was regarded highly but the Isles took the player that would bring all facets along with him…fan excitement and scoring.
Now the Isles have a lot of holes, but a player like Gudbranson might be that one to push up a spot to get unless the Isles are convinced he will drop to them. But what can the Isles even offer Florida or CBJ to do such a move?
The problem here are the two teams in front of us: Columbus and Florida. Both are wild cards, and Florida could even deal for their spot to a team with far more to offer when they feel they are poised for the playoffs with some regular players.
So we also have to consider that Gudbranson will not be there at #5.
This means a change of philosophy in my opinion and you take the next best player overall, which in my opinion is Nino Niederreiter. I am not on the Brett Connolly bandwagon. His injury is something that does affect his value, and I am not convinced he is unaffected by it. I hope I am wrong, because he is a talented kid. I am not on the Russian prospect bandwagon. Isles cannot afford to wait or hope they don’t go to the KHL. Not at the #5 spot.
So you take the best one there instead on offense then you hope the Isles can push back into the top of the 1st of the round dealing some of those 2nd and 3rd round picks to grab a mean Dylan McIlrath or perhaps hope Jarred Tinordi, another physical defender drops to the 2nd round.
Then the Isles have one dynamic forward and an excellent blue chip defender from the draft. Definitely two things they needed.
If Gudbranson is available, you pick him as your dynamic defender and work on catching a gem in the rough of an offensive player by moving up. Or you try to jedi mindtrick Atlanta to get back into the top 10. Or you roll the high school dice with a Brock Nelson at the end of the 1st or even at their spot in the 2nd round.
Isles are willing to move things to get their man, and they have been scouting these kids all season besides just meeting some at the combine. Trust me, they have a plan.
Is it predictable?
I was able to guess correctly they’d move back in 2008 except I thought it was Colin Wilson they were going for. I did predict Tavares, but that was a no-brainer. So I can’t really tout my prognostication skills…. even if I was more accurate than LI’s local paper.
This year…all bets are off.
From Russia with love…
With those KHLers dropping like stones in draft value, the Isles could grab one deeper in the draft in the 2nd or 3rd round to take a chance on. I don’t buy Alex Burmistrov talk one bit. If the Isles bite on a Russian is will not be him, it will be Vladimir Tarasenko who also has expressed interest in playing in the NHL and is rated higher by many, some feeling he is a top 4 pick (ISS). Could Burmistrov drop to 2nd round? Then, well, there is a conversation worth having. First half of the 1st round? Not buying it.
And now for something completely different:
Which brings me to the dark horse scenario. The Isles have two solid goalies prospects in their system: Kevin Poulin and Mikko Koskinen. But a good system has more. A good system and future doesn’t put all their eggs in one or two baskets.
Do not discount that the Isles might have an eye on Jeff Campbell or Calvin Pickard. Or at least some under-the-radar European goaltender that they will look to take in round 2 or 3.
Rick DiPietro, their 15 year man, is a huge question mark after last years assurances all was well, slow rehab, and eventual shutdown. His career is in deep trouble if the swelling persists. Meanwhile their starter, Dwayne Roloson, will be 41 years old in October and on the last year of his contract.
Garth Snow was a former goalie, so is Mr. Bean Pot Trot himself, Scott Gordon. The Isles brainstrust must be considering other goalie prospects in their system and those in the draft for the uncertain future they are presented.
Folks, don’t discount the goalie factor in this coming draft. I don’t think they will take one early, but do consider it as factor later on.
If they leap at Campbell or later in 1st for Pickard, then know that the DP situation might be quite dire. If they just take someone deeper, then they are just being smart and prudent.
And of course there is the Isles wacky character factor:
Jaden Schwartz, Austin Watson, and Ryan Johansen could be ones that catch the Isles eye on character and talent with their psyche profile pushing up their value. If the Isles move back in the 1st round, could be for one of these surprises. Remember, the Isles use a 180 question personality test and have their psych guy front and center at the Combine. There is a reason for it. There is a chance they can rate someone far higher due to that character, potential plus talent.
- BD
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About the Author: B.D. Gallof is a published writer and hockey blogger. He is one of the charter members of the NY Islander's Blog Box program. He was the NY Islanders blogger for Hockeybuzz.com from 2007 till the beginning of 2009.. He then went solo at IslandersIndependent.com where he got very involve in the Lighthouse Project, reporting it from both sides: The Islanders and also The Town of Hempstead.
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I would buy the Isles drafting Kabanov somewhere in the second round. He’s a super talented douche, but he may be able to get his head straight and not become Alexi Yashin. Given that the team is working on getting Petrov over here it would be good to have one more Russian on the team, and if Kabanov can mature he would turn into an absolute steal. Otherwise, I’m ambivalent to the idea of picking over Fowler, Gundbranson, Gormley, Connolly, etc. I guess that a big defender is the best choice, and Gundbranson has great character, so probably pick him, but overall I think there’s close to parity in picks 3-7 or so and I would not be upset to get any one of them. Also, I agree that another goalie could be forthcoming in this draft and I see a tandem of young goalies taking over after this season.
Nice contributions from everyone. I believe the concensus desire is to have Gudbranson. He’s my choice of the BIG THREE after the HUGEMUNGOUS TWO.
This draft is sooooo fluid, that I will not make predictions of trading up or down. I don’t think the Isles would have as hard a time trading up to #3 from #5 as many would think. The 3 guys rated from 3 to 5 all have the same upside, and provide unique skills that compliment the game in one form or the other. I just think that those 3 players are so close that Garth isn’t willing to give up anything in order to select a specific player to his liking, when he can get a comprable talent at #5.
That being said I still think his priority should be Gudbranson. He’ll need another year in Juniors (He doesn’t qualify to play in the AHL), and I don’t believe in rushing a defenseman. Call him up after the Junior season ends to the “A”, and possibly a cup of coffee on the Island.
I know … I’m ahead of myself.
I’d be happy with any of Connolly, Fowler or Gudbranson. They are all top notch talents that will make the Islanders a much better team in the long run. They are all impact players.
On Connolly’s hip. We’re all kinda bugabooed about hip injuries because of DiPietro. I would like to remind my fellow fans it’s not his hip that is keeping him out. It’s his knee. His surgically repaired hip got him to an all star game, and he was single handedly willing the Isles to win in the first half of 2007-08. He had the Isles at the 6 spot in the conference before his “other” hip got injured trying to make a ridiculously difficult save in the all star skills competition. Remember he dropped the “F” bomb while being mic’d? Then the summer of 2008 we saw that DP was in a softcast for his knee. It was his knee that has been giving him problems.
So if the Isles do draft Connolly … Give this kid a break. You just may be wearing his name on the back of your Islander jersey for the next 15 years.
Connolly as the scouting pundits have been screaming about would be in the same conversation as Seguin and Hall had he not been injured last summer. He may be filling the back of opponents nets with 40 goal seasons for years to come. Have you heard how good he was on the penalty kill? He gives point men fits … his good positioning, and speed means point men can’t and don’t cheat on him as much. This kid brings many attributes we haven’t seen in one package on the Island in ages. Size, Speed, Skill and Physicality.
Fowler. This kid was the apple of scouts eyes last year. It was him and Hall as 1 and 2. Some thought he might bump Hall down this year. After the WJC he only raised his stock … but … Hall and this kid Seguin had tremendous seasons, while Fowler kinda leveled off and anchored the blue line for the CHL Memorial Champion Windsor Spitfires. Another kid with tremendous talent … I’d also be proud to see him in an Islander uniform being mentored by Streit, and running the power play for the better part of this decade and beyond. I’m sick of Islander forwards being used at the point during power plays.
Then back to my choice … by a slim margin (determined by most critical need… SIZE) Erik Gudbranson … The guy is 6’4″. He’s got a mean streak, is a steady defenseman with great passing and a decent shot. He’s not going to ring up the points and goals like Fowler… but he’s going to make it extremely hard for the opposition to ring up goals against the Isles. He’s not inept in the offense department either. He’ll get his fair share of scoring chances from the blue line. Chara wasn’t a known offensive force when he first came up either. Gudy is the best fit at this time for this team.
If I had it my way … I’d try to package all my picks this year after the 35th pick, and package Bergy and DiBo with Ness (9 picks and 3 players) to get picks from Columbus and Florida and take all 3 guys. Fat chance that will happen… just sayin’. That is how much I think of these 3 guys.
Hmmm… the vote is in. Dear Garth: come home with Gudbranson or don’t get back on the plane….
wait… did I say that out loud?
shoot.
Wait till i do the post that the Isles Will Not Select Gudbranson. Coming Monday or Tuesday.
B.D.,
How about, the Isles, should they not have the ability to sign any UFA’s whether because they won’t spend the money or no one WANTS to sign with them, trade the pick for a young established player on a “cap strapped” team? I’ve heard that scenario from plenty of posters and many other posters have talked about teams like chicago being “up against the cap”, but is it a distinct possibility?
Or are we just going to see our Isles stay the course and build exclusively through the draft?
Isles are going to stay course with rebuild. they are playing it safe, careful and smart.
They will not trade the pick unless they trade back a spot or two. No dealing for players.
There is no secret pill or special magic that will make them cut corners and hope for the best. Not their philsophy.